My banana project

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Great list there Trax! Because we're a banana exporting and growing area, I'm only allowed to grow 4 specific types. To even grow them I must obtain written permission from the Dept. of Primary Industry. There's a lot of red tape involved here but we have none of the common banana diseases here and they plan to keep it that way:) Huuuuuge fines if you're caught growing the wrong type of banana!:eek: This is a pic of a pup that's been growing for a about 2 months
 

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This is what happens at my place when you forget to support your small banana tree:rolleyes:

This is another pic of a flower that just kept producing....dunno why I eventually ended up just cutting the small fruit off as they never got any larger
 

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Wombat where do your bananas go? Do they come to the states or China or where? That's fascinating. I had NO IDEA about how you have to declare what specific types you will grow. I keep trying to buy a pup but I am banging my head against a wall..... About how big is a pup? Curbie
 


Great question Curbie. I was wondering the same thing.

Josh ,
WOW I think you covered them all. That is awesome. Ron's suggestion of zones is great but don't drive yourself nuts if the info is not handy. Maybe just a general idea would be great. I think most grow only in hardy zones but if there is a cold zone banana then we really want to hear about it :D
 
Wombat sent me a link about growing bananas in Maryland!Go to the weather thread to see it. I am thrilled! I have to get a pup now. Curbie
 
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I ORDERED A PUP ONLINE TODAY! I got one from Willis Garden. The 'hitch' in that is that I had to order $50 worth of products so.....I HAD (:) ) to buy a couple other things (a lilac bush and a pussywillow). Curbie
 
Curbie pups vary in size, it all depends what the grower or producer has in stock, they vary from 1ft to 3ft depending on their root development. I always let mine go to about 2-3ft before cutting them off as they have a stronger root system. Wow what great news about getting your new ''baby"! Hey pleased you found the link helpful too:)
About 85% of the banana crop here supply the domestic market, we never import bananas from anywhere, due to the diseases prevalent in their country of origin. The rest goes to New Zealand and the Middle East. I think the US gets most of it's bananas from Sth America, namely Equador which is the biggest exporter in the world.
Hey I just found out via email that we can now grow another 3 types of banana:D I'll have to check them out, these are all the types we can grow:
Ducasse, Dwarf Ducasse, Pisang Ceylan, Blue Java, Bluggoe, Goldfinger and Ladyfinger
 
Here's what I ordered: Pineapple Banana Plant 1 Year (Offset Bulb) (Ships mid March - October) I'm going to try :) Can't hurt to try! Curbie :) Thanks for all of your help, Wombat and Trax.
 
I love Blue Java (Ice Cream) banana trees cause they grow fast and huge! :D
Hey Wombat,
Thanx for the pics! :) That's a really healthy pup and btw, I had the same prob with an Ice Cream banana tree that fell over. It was huge and the wind crashed it down. :( That last banana tree must think it's a 1000 Fingers banana, lol! That's a ton of bananas 4 sure! Congrats about getting to grow 7 kinds now! :)
We can grow any banana plant we want in the U.S. but if they have Panama disease or Black Sigatoka, they have to be destroyed. I think Yellow Sigatoka is okay since copper fungicide will cure that.
Hey Bluewolf,
Def get a banana pup! :D They're fun!
Hey Curbie,
Oops! :o I forgot about that $50 minimum order thing. I had to get raspberries to get mine over $50. Btw, congrats about the Pineapple banana tree! :D Gotta see pics!
Btw, I always wait till pups are about 3 feet before I dig mine and cut them off. They survive better that way! :) And Wombat's right, the U.S. bananas come from Ecuador. Usually either William's hybrid or Cavendish.
CrabberGirl,
Thanx! :) I've been making that list for about a year now. When I find a new banana plant in cyber space, I check it out and add it to the list. I dont have info for all of them but I will give some good ideas about some of them in my post. :)
Oh, and I'll add banana flavors too! :D

The first thing to remember is that any banana tree can be grown in any zone, if they're brought inside in the winter. They hibernate indoors if you dont feed or water them.
Some cold hardy bananas:
Basjoo & Sikkimensis & Red Tiger Sikkimensis love cold weather. But you still needa cover them with mulch and use plastic mats to keep the ground dry when it's really cold.
Blue Java (Ice Cream) banana trees will make bananas in zone 5, if they are brought inside in the winter. -- Winter = less than 50*F.
In zones 4-7, almost any banana tree has to be dug up and brought inside for the winter. But it's def worth it! :D You can dig them up, shake the dirt off the roots, and lay them somewhere that stays around 50-70*F. The leaves will die before spring but when you stick it back in the ground it starts making new leaves and growing again!

If you do bring them in for the winter, here's some really good ones:
(this list includes bananas that people have grown in Ontario)
1. Blue Java -- The 1st year it will get about 8 feet tall, even if it's not fertilized much.
---- It will get about 15 feet tall the 2nd year. zone 8-10.
2. Dwarf Cavendish -- This one only gets about 6-8 feet tall. zone 8-9. Good in pots!
3. Basjoo -- This gets 12-18 feet tall. zone 5a-11. The bananas aren't edible though.
4. Dwarf Orinoco -- This gets 5-8 feet tall. zone 7B-11. Cooking bananas!
5. Orinoco -- This gets 16-20 feet tall. zone 7-9. Keep very dry indoors in the winter.
6. Sikkimensis -- This gets 12-18 feet tall. zone 5-9. This one loves cool, marine climates!
---- The bananas taste kinda like watermelon but watch out for the hard, black seeds!
---- The leaves are kinda red underneath.
7. Red Tiger Sikkimensis -- The same as above BUT has red pen stripes in the leaves!
8. Zebrina -- This is not easy to find. And I cant find any info either. But I grew one and in just 1 year it was about 8 feet tall! Btw, I have one now! Be careful though! Stores will try to sell you a Rojo or Ensete Maurelli and call it Zebrina. But it wont have the red/green camo leaves. Just green on top and red underneath.
---- The bananas are not edible though.
9. Zebrina x Gran Nain -- No info for this one either but it's like the other one except it makes small edible bananas!

BANANA FLAVORS
Apple Cider -- Misi Luki -- slightly under-ripe Orinoco
Grapefruit -- Gros Michel
Green Apple -- Hawaiian Apple
Honey -- Jamaican Red
Watermelon -- Pisang Klotek
Orange -- Red Iholene
Pineapple -- Pisang Klotek -- it depends on how ripe the banana is
Rose Apple -- Orito
Sweet Cheese (Ricotta or Mascarpone) -- Moradito (red-skinned minis)
Tart Cherry Pie and Custard -- Lacatan
White Sweet Potato -- Kichua Sweet Plantain, Gros Michel when used as a plantain
Vanilla Ice Cream -- Blue Java (Ice Cream)

Hey Curbie,
That banana tree you bought is prolly a Pisang Klotek! That's the only one that makes bananas that taste like Pineapples! They were imported here from Sri Lanka in 2005. The leaves are kinda pale green with maroon undersides. They survive in zones 5-10. The stem get 9-13 feet tall and the whole plant gets 20-25 feet tall (to the top of the leaves). They make small 4-5 inch long bananas and like lots of sunlight. And you wont have to protect them till the temps are about 35*F. But the pups are deeper in the ground than most banana trees so you'll needa dig deeper to cut them off. :)
 
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oh boy....i think i goofed b/c I don't have a place for a tree that big :) I'M TRYING! LOL! And it did say the bananas would taste/smell like pineapple. See what you started. I don't even know where the bananas come out of and if this pup gets here, I think I can start it in the house? But I'll be daggoned if this thing turns into a tree, I'm bringing it indoors like the lady in MD! Can you eat banana leaves? Maybe I should stick with the leaves :) . I'm so confuzzled. Thanks, Trax ~ Curbie
 
Hey Trax yeah that's the main reason why we can't grow all the banana types because we have no diseases whatsoever, and you can't even bring the fruit back with you from another country. Yeah that banana bunch was strange alright but I was advised to cut them off as it was affecting the other larger bananas from developing

Curbie you'll have great fun with your banana plant but you'll have to find some space for it as they do get pretty large lol. You said it was supposed to taste like pineapple? Hmmmm maybe a raja puri....I'll have to check up on that though......If you want anymore 'nanas try the encanto farms site as it appears to be cheaper and comes highly recommended. The one below it has a wealth of info about 'nanas too:)

http://encantofarms.com/

http://www.bananas.org/
 
Hey Wombat,
That Bananas.org is even better than Bananas.com! :) I wanted to join but it's a pay site. :( I might still join some day anyway. But I can still lurk till I do! :D Btw, I'm glad Australia doesn't have those diseases. I read that bananas are having epic disease probs all over the world.
Hey Curbie,
No prob! :) I didn't know anything about bananas till about 2 years ago. But they're def fun to grow! :D

I def needa check out that Raja Puri some more.
 
Not dumb Curbie just on a learning curve, like we all did when we first got bananas.:)

Trax yeah we have no diseases at this stage that's why they're so strict about what can be grown and brought into the country. Being an island continent has it's advantages sometimes.
 
Go ahead and brag, Wombat :) LOL! Maybe we should all be on an island somewhere with a banana farm ~ in Australia! PACK YOUR SUITCASES and pups! oh...i don't have mine yet.....wait for me :) Curbie
 
WOW.........I may have gotten myself into a tub of trouble! i hope mine grows very, very, very slowly :) If you talk with them, can you convince them to grow slower? Play the piano? SING! :) I feel like I'm pregnant with a pup waiting to arrive. "I'm having a puppy :)." "I'm in a bad mood b/c I'm having a puppy" Gosh, now I have the hicpups~ Curbie
 


Looking good Josh!

Curbie,
I once knew a woman that grew cocnuts inher house in NE Florida. She had them in huge pots on wheels and she kept them near a window. When the weather was nice she would wheel thm outside. Not sure if they ever produced or how big they eventually got because I lost contact with her. If she can do it with cocnuts you can do it with bananas!
 


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